Craigslist and Texas Photo Forum (now Pixtus).
Paid $90 for the Tenba (used once...still had the rain cover in plastic and all the tags still inside)
The LowePro was off of Craigslist...it was a spare..unused with the tags still intact...$45.
I hate paying retail
Now with my new to me camera on the way, these will be paying for themselves.